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    Posted: 30 January 2007 at 2:24pm
Hello everyone! I want to introduce you to a new student of mine and walk you through some of the changes we are making to his golf swing in hopes that you can learn through this experience. Blake Adams will be a rookie on the Nationwide Tour this season and came to me a few weeks ago seeking help with consistency. Blake has had limited success working with about 4 other instructors in the past, just as many of you on the forums have. But, after our first lesson, Blake gained some much needed consistency in his ball striking with a couple tweaks.
 
Below I have included some screen shots and explanations of the changes we have made:
 
 
I will explain more of the changes in detail as time permits, but for now, you can see one major change to get things started. The swing on the left is during our playing round but BEFORE I did any work on his swing. Blake plays the ball just about off his back foot for most all iron shots and flips his hands through impact in order to square the face with such an extreme ball position. While he has made this work well enough to make it through PGA Qualifying School this year, it was necessary to move the ball slightly forward in order to correct his tendency to block shots (As he did on this one in the left frame) and to hit quick hooks. That was the reason for making the changes to his swing. Before ever making a change, I insisted on playing 9 holes with him to get an idea for what types of shots he hits in the real world, not just on the range. While he shot 1 under for the 9 holes, it was evident by his misses that this was the first problem to tackle.
 
As we moved the ball position more forward, Blake was able to approach the ball from a less extreme inside angle and not have to release his hands so aggressively to square the clubface. As a result, you can see in the second frame that he can now setup square rather than slightly closed as he did before and hit a little draw. He now hits the ball more straight and can even have a slight fade, which will be more consistent for him week in and week out. Notice in the frame on the right his shoulders are more open at the same point in the swing. This is something that we will continue to work on as necessary if he still tends to flip, but as you can see at impact, he is in a very nice square position and his body has cleared better as his weight has been allowed to more naturally transfer to his left, giving him more power with less effort and less hands.
 
 
These changes of only a few degrees in body rotation and a different swing thought have gotten him to the point where the club rotates about 10 degrees less a couple frames past impact which is evidence that his hands are flipping less through impact.
 
Blake is coming down tomorrow to work for another week or so on his game and I will continue to update you on his progress. Look for him to play well this year on the Nationwide Tour when starts up around the end of March.
 
-Chuck


Edited by Chuck Quinton - 30 January 2007 at 2:26pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote willrob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 January 2007 at 4:09pm
I just want to say good luck to you two, I'm sure your team will make great progress and wonderful things to come.

A side note, it always amazes me how much set up can change a swing. I was hitting balls a few days ago and working on a few things but not much results. I went over a few things in my head, and started looking at the basics (my set up). Well, it had gotten a little sloppy etc etc. So I worked on that and ball position and BOOM!!! ball strikin was beter, more consistent.

My point is, if you look at all the ranges of handicaps, the set up for the most part is better at lower handicaps and not as good at higer. IT all starts at the set up, w/ posture, alignment, ball position etc etc.

Just some thoughts I had going on in my head that I thought I'd share, nothing new but just sometimes forgotten.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote OSLV Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 January 2007 at 4:45pm
Good luck Chuck with Mr. Blake Adams, not to add any pressure hopefully this is your ticket to the big show. IŽll be checking him as soon as the Nationwide Tour starts.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sergio777 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 January 2007 at 6:10pm
Chuck, is it the camera angle, or is Blake's stance a little on the narrow side? (especially in the top left picture) 

Edited by sergio777 - 30 January 2007 at 6:11pm
Serg, ticking on 5.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chuck Quinton Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 January 2007 at 9:49am
sergio, good eyes. He does have a very narrow stance. He's had some back and hip issues and this helps ease the strain so it is not something that I will change. Right now, we are focused on his swing thought through the ball and the setup changes. He typically hits about a 10 yard draw with his driver and I'm getting rid of that as well. He is now hitting it straight, but feeling like he is hitting a cut. As he put it, he feels like David Duval with his driver and that gets the ball going straight so we don't have to fear the "lefts" anymore.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dariusz J. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 January 2007 at 11:03am
Chuck, what have you specifically been working with Blake so that he could get rid of those draws ? diminishing his inside DS angle or working on keeping the clubface square at impact ? if I may ask, of course - just curious...
 
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Chuck,
 
Great stuff. It really makes me feel good that there is someone out there at that level of golf (Nationwide Tour) that 1)struggles with flippy hands and 2) has successfully made it to a tour with that swing fault! I am currently having problems with the same thing. Ball position and alignment has been a problem of mine forever. I am continually working on this in my practice sessions. I also like the angle formed by his right hand as he approaches impact. The club is so parallel to his target line! This is also something else I have been working on and I have seen my ballstriking improve.
 
Do you think you will do any impact bag work with him?
 
Do you plan on posting his swing in the members vault (maybe a video lesson?)
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I think he'll do fine from that impact position. As for the narrow stance, I have never been able to have a really wide stance and feel at all balanced or athletic, so my stance would be narrow in the 1PS sense. I don't think it's a deal-breaker ...
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Hey guys. Sorry, I've been on the range 8 hours a day for a while and I'm falling behind a bit. We actually made some significant changes to his golf swing yesterday that made incredible differences in his accuracy and I will post the changes here hopefully today or over the weekend. Once we get closer with the changes, I'll do a video lesson comparing old to new in the Vault for you guys.
For now, here's a quick peak:
 
 
At the top of his swing his arms are in a much better position, as his body as can be seen on the left. He doesn't hunch over as much at address and gets into a more athletic position at the top (we extended his 7 iron 1.5" over standard the night before - he's 6'3"). The clubface is much more square than before also, a very important change.
 
 
Huge improvement here. No more flippy from this position.
 
 
Huge difference here all the way around. Shoulders aren't tilting as much, clubface not shut and on plane.
 
Pretty amazing differences for just his second lesson. Shows what a phenomenal talent Blake is to be able to make changes like this and hit the ball even better.
 
 
Lastly, we're still working on this one, but it is significantly better going back on plane. Before he was very steep with an extremely cupped left wrist and it took some great hands to get the job done. The clubface is not hooded as before either which has made a huge difference in his accuracy. Now Blake feels much more effortless bringing the club back down and his accuracy is now dramatically improved. On the range with his 7 iron, he was literally missing the flag by inches and feet slightly left or right of the target, not yards, and hitting it about 175. Very exciting stuff.
 
Pretty dramatic changes for one day, much more invasive than I wanted to be to be quite honest but he talked me into it and convinced me he could do it. I literally gave him one hour to work on it before I was going to take it back several notches, but he made it look easy. Like the commercial says, "These guys are good."


Edited by Chuck Quinton - 02 February 2007 at 9:44am
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Chuck,
  It's a little hard to tell if this is accurate because of the dark clothing...but, it looks like his hips have turned less on the backswing in this bottom set of photos than they did before.  I'm looking at his right leg covering his left.  It that's correct, that should make his coil tighter and his distance longer. 
  If that's accurate, was that decrease in hip rotation due to the posture change? 

  Dude got this in an hour?  Disgusting! 
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